[TYPO3-dev] Once again - the future of TYPO3 templating/grid approaches

[bernd wilke]

Am 17.06.14 04:31, schrieb Georg Ringer:
> Hi,
>
> IMO this is quite difficult to solve and I am not sure if the Assocation
> can do anything about it.

we are "the Association". it is our decision whcih way should be 
supported and build up for a general, multi purpose solution.

> I of course understand that all those extensions might frustrate people
> but there are 2 things I want to highlight:
>
> === Different things ===
>
> There are 2 features which are too often mixed up:
> * FCE: simple content elements with specific fields
> * Grids: having the possibility to split content elements into grids
> having inside real content elements or grids having ... **recursion**
>
> Those 2 have quite nothing in common and should be ideally tackled in
> seperate tasks. Just to mention it here: Yes it would be awesome to have
> both in the core as well but those things are really not easy to do.

just my thoughts when reading the opening posting.
also after having a look into the google-doc.

You can mix them if you build CEs which are container to other CEs. In 
exterme you have a (page-)Layout where all content is inserted in one 
record (is it a page record or a content record?)

> === Proof of concepts ===

after invention of flexforms it is very easy for everyone to create new 
and individual (F)CEs.
The backdraws: all data is stored in one XML field.
my point of view:
http://forum.typo3.org/index.php/t/199604/ (in german)
as the original tt_content record is a multi purpose record with a lot 
of fields to contain and configure content it was possible to create new 
CEs since ever, but every new approach uses only the field pi_flexform :(

on the T3CRR 2013 creating individual CEs was a big topic for different 
talks.
since then some more extensions have appeared in TER for creating 
individual CEs. and still only pi_flexform usage.

Maybe the typical needed CEs have changed since TYPO3 3.5 and it is the 
time for some new CEs in the core. maybe then those individual CEs are 
possible with just some configuration (visible fields for editors) 
instead of new extensions and add ons.


on the gridelements/themes codesprint oct 2013 we had the same topic and 
so I was not able to help much I'm very excited to see the new 
ext:themes presented at this WE.

bernd
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