[TYPO3-dev] TYPO3 4.4 introduction package and realUrl

[Erik Svendsen]

Den 24.06.2010 13:37, skrev Dmitry Dulepov:
> Hi!
>
> Erik Svendsen wrote:
>> So the question/problem. As I understand realUrl are enabled as standard
>> in the introduction package. Ther are already one post in english list
>> about it. When we are thinking this package as something for newbies,
>> testing it on their own PC or on a hosted account this may give some
>> problems. I suppose many of these don't know about correct Apache
>> settings and the need for mod_rewrite - or maybe not even hav enough
>> knowledge to understand the problem. Yes, I remember my own problem with
>> mod_rewrite and Apache configurations when I started 6 years ago.
>
> TYPO3 is an enterprise CMS. I cannot really imagine any serious hosting
> without mod_rewrite. If somebody installs TYPO3, he should at least read
> INSTALL.txt and that file clearly mentions mod_rewrite.
>
I don't disagree in that TYPO3 is an enterprise CMS. But I don't think 
the introduction package would primarily be used by enterprises, but by 
people who want to check out if TYPO3 is an alternative. For instance, 
the use of Joomla even in enterprises in Norway are a result of newbies 
using it and telling the market it's easy.

> TYPO3 is not phpBB, it is not for everybody. It is for people who are
> serious about their web sites. The introduction package comes with certain
> goodies that people should be able to see. One of them is RealURL. Speaking
> URLs is an industry standard and turning them of would have a negative
> effect on user impression about TYPO3.
>

Don disagree on this point either. But if a certain amount of people 
don't get it to work, it also may have a negative effect.

> Probably the first page of the introduction site should mention something
> about mod_rewrite.
>

A better solution than mine. But it also have to say how to disable 
realUrl if it somehow not working (where it should).

Else, the introduction package is checking for mod_rewrite on 
installation. It's in line 283 ... in 
/typo3conf/ext/introduction/Classes/Configuration/Configuration.php. But 
it uses phpinfo(), which are not testing if AllowOveride has wrong 
values, or circumstances you point on in your other post.

And I have installed TYPO3 on hosts where mod_rewrite was installed but 
globally turned of. I'm going to test the package on some smaller hosts.

+1 for Ernestos solution.