[TYPO3-dev] not amused...
Jochen Rau
jochen.rau at typoplanet.de
Fri Sep 4 17:49:41 CEST 2009
Hi Dmitry.
Dmitry Dulepov wrote:
> Steffen Ritter wrote:
>> I know that we are all under a lot of work, some people might be on
>> holidays and I know that - for many of us - core work is freetime.
>
> It is "free time" for the v4 team only.
That is not right. Most of the members of the v5 team are working for free.
> I tried to push a "paid development" idea to anyone whom I could reach at t3dd. The answer from all decision making people is like "we do not want to pay for development" (I add: "...except to v5 for the last 3 years!"). The result is visible to everyone.
You imply that there is no or low result, I disagree. There is FLOW3 and
Extbase. you can start to develop extensions in a modern way right now.
> We also need a real testing team because relying on 1 or 2 review in a such complex system is completely irresponsible idea, especially given a huge increase in a number of contributions. But no one listens!!! Everyone just says: "We are cool, TYPO3 is cool, all cool, T3A is cool, we will get a cool v5 soon, all is cool..." but nothing is cool for more than a year already.
>
> I kinda tired to fight for a proper development in TYPO3. I have no idea what T3A is thinking or doing but it does not seem like they care. There is no big plan, There is no vision. There is no real steering. There is no big view on architecture, etc. After Kasper left TYPO3 moves randomly here and there. Bad for the product...
IMO you fight for something that is a proper development in TYPO3 from
your perspective. But I agree that we need a "vision" (apart from having
TYPO3 v5.
> Quality issues are also a problem. Every latest release after 4.2.3 was unclean and had major quality issues.
That is indeed a problem. We have to solve. A overhault release
management and more professional testing is a way to achieve that.
> TYPO3 needs changes and proper management if this product wants to survive!
I am not so pessimistic. But, yes. There is a lot to optimize we have to
talk about. Painting black and white is not the right way here.
Greetings
Jochen
I am on vacation right now and can answer only time by time. Seems that
interesting discussions come up every time I am on vacation ;-)
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