[TYPO3-dev] Money money... and a donation project

[Ries van Twisk]

On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Stig Nørgaard Færch wrote:

> Ries van Twisk skrev:
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:05 AM, Stig Nørgaard Færch wrote:
>>
>>> Ries van Twisk skrev:
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Stig Nørgaard Færch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> Collecting the money:
>>>>> The next barrier is to actual collect the money. Let's say the  
>>>>> project
>>>>> need 3000€. I wouldn't want to make a donation of 100€ unless I  
>>>>> was
>>>>> sure
>>>>> that money actually would be used for this project. What if the  
>>>>> goal
>>>>> amount isn't met? Okay - so people can pledge? This would never  
>>>>> work
>>>>> with small donation amounts for such a project.
>>>>>
>>>>> So this project might never be realized.
>>>>
>>>> If the project was never realized it was never needed by the  
>>>> person who
>>>> want's to implement this feature.
>>>
>>> It's true that many features are not "needed", but they are  
>>> nevertheless
>>> often really nice-to-have.
>>>
>>> And it might be true for Marios cool "google-calendar like frontend"
>>> project as well - he might not really need it. But it would be a
>>> valuable and nice-to-have feature.
>>
>> If it's valuable to have (this is arguable) then somebody that  
>> needed it
>> would implement it. Really, I have also done crazy things with the
>> help of TYPO3 that could not be found in TER, client needed it,
>> so it got implemented...
>
> Lets say that some feature costs 5000€ to implement. That might be a  
> too
> heavy cost for the customer.

Then this only means the client really didn't needed it...

> That doesn't mean that it isn't a valuable
> feature and a needed feature.

I agree, but if it's really needed it will get built..
I hope you get my point, right??

> So the TYPO3 company now has to decide if
> it itself should invest time/money in the project. But I still haven't
> seen any company who has made THE gallery extension (for example).

Because they are not needed??? there are some nice galleries
already and apparently they fit the bill. Properly there
are some private gallery extensions aswell...


> That
> doesn't mean that the need isn't there - it just means that noone is
> coordinating efforts/money.
> If that feature only had to cost 500€ for the customer, then it had  
> been
> developed. And I think that could be achieved through the use of  
> donations.

If 500 Euro is an issue for any company to market his/here website
they have a serious problem in the first place. And they need to ask  
themselves
if they can go away with feature XYZ that works for them...

I myself have been working on extensions that are worth over 100K,
the customer paid it because they needed it...

You see what I mean? The difference is 'need' vs 'like to have looks  
nice and cool'.

Really, if there is a need... it will get implemented!!! See also  
Dmitry's points....


			regards, Ries van Twisk

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