[TYPO3-dev] not amused...

[Franz Holzinger]

Georg Ringer a écrit :
> Franz Holzinger schrieb:
>> A non Core developer has no interest because his patches have been on 
>> the Core waiting list for years. 
> 
> this is just not true for everybody! I am no core dev and I still create 
> patches and test others!
But why do your still writing patches if they are only lying around 
afterwards?

>> If you don't pay the work then you should create at least a voucher 
>> system which give the developer and tester a right to get his own 
>> patches into Core within few days and not having _to wait for several 
>> years_!
> 
> yeah, add more complex stuff ... :( -1
"inspiring people to share" ...

>> Why should someone be motivated to contribute to the TYPO3 Core if his 
>> own patches are never considered?
> 
> I guess this can happen but I doubt that this is normal
I have made the experience that this is the normal case for normal 
persons and even for some Core developers.

>> And I observe that others are prefered by some Core developers, and 
>> they always get their patches in, and they are very content with the 
>> current situation.
> 
> Maybe this is because of high quality of the patches?
I doubt this. Why is there no improvement suggestion if the Core 
developer considers it as pour quality? How is quality defined?

>> TYPO3 has become too big. It is a wrong decision to put so many 
>> extensions as system extensions into the Core. 
> 
> Which core exts do you mean?
rtehtmlarea, dbal, t3editor, sys_action, feedit, simulatestatic, 
extbase, felogin, indexed_search, adodb, openid, rsaauth

> Of course it would have been way nicer to have e.g. workspaces as a real 
> extension but this just not possible with the big TCEmain and the old 
> code. And it would be the same issue as with DBAL (already discussed in 
> 4.3. general list) that if so important features are not activated on 
> default, there is a high risk that upcoming features stop those to work.
> 
>> Many more code parts of TYPO3 should be put into extensions to the TER.
> 
> Which parts?
E.g. the page and list module, TCE and t3lib_div. This could be made 
downloadable from TER instead of shipping it with TYPO3.

>> Then more persons (developoers and testers) could contribute more 
>> easily. Smaller parts are much easier to understand than a big system.
> 
> I got really many extensions in TER and there are really few people who 
> want to help
This will be different with TYPO3 , because there is more interest to 
improve main TYPO3 functionalities.

>> It is a weird thing that the TYPO3 system is always getting bigger and 
>> more complicated, and fewer persons work on it with less money being 
>> paid to them.
> 
> IMO more people are working on it, especially after opening the core 
> list to the public
More persons have been writing patches and are now very disappointed, 
because they are completely blocked and have been waiting for more than 
1 year.

- Franz