[TYPO3-dev] not amused...

Dan Osipov dosipov at phillyburbs.com
Wed Sep 2 16:49:38 CEST 2009


You are definitely correct, and I think the key person for driving 
development, making sure all features are on schedule for release, etc 
is the release manager.

The tough part for the release manager is how little control he/she has 
over the development, since most of it is volunteer work. If a planned 
feature is not complete by the deadline, what can you do?

I believe that Ingo has done a terrific job in completing 4.2, and Olly 
is managing 4.3 very well, even if it is behind the original schedule 
(things change).

My suggestion for the future is to approach future releases in more 
agile manner [1], and have the community drive the development, while 
the release manager keeps track of patches sent to the list, sending 
reminders for reviews, and coordinating similar changes to prevent side 
effects. As Dmitry suggested, having this one paid position would 
drastically cut the release cycle, reduce problems, produce a better 
product, and inspire a community! Because there is nothing less 
inspiring than having a feature sit in the mailing list for two years...

Dan Osipov
Calkins Media
http://danosipov.com/blog/

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development

Erik Svendsen wrote:
> Dmitry Dulepov skrev:
> 
>> It is "free time" for the v4 team only.
>>
>> I tried to push a "paid development" idea to anyone whom I .....
>>
>> We also need a real testing team because relying on 1 or 2 review .....
>>
>> I have no idea what T3A is thinking or doing but it does not .....
>>
>> Quality issues are also a problem. Every latest release after 4.2.3 
>> was unclean and had major quality issues ....
>>
>> TYPO3 needs changes and proper management if this product wants to 
>> survive!
>>
> 
> I'm not a developer, but I have to say I fully agree in each and every 
> point. And I has also tried to pinpoint some of the problems with TYPO3 
> and how the community works, and even ideas for solutions.
> 
> TYPO3 is complex both as software and as an organizational project. 
> Complexity needs proper management and good tools, it can't survive on a 
> sole ad-hoc basis.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Erik Svendsen




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