[TYPO3-dev] not amused...

[Martin Kutschker]

Xavier Perseguers schrieb:
> Hi Masi,
> 
>> My attitude towards v5 is relaxed now. It's there when it's done - in a
>> couple of years from now :) I don't mind. What bothers me OTOH is that
>> the "bridging attittude" goes too far IMHO. Any new feature has to be MVC
>> and DDD even if it makes no sense at all in v4 context.
> 
> Problem is simply that there is no playground for those really
> interesting concepts. FLOW3 could be used but there is nothing "outside"
> as v5 does not exist even as alpha. Thank to Extbase, we can use those
> concepts in v4.

I have nothing against ExtBase as such. But IMHO it shouldn't be the
center for new v4 features. OTOH I welcome "backports" of FLOW3 features
 within t3lib or tslib, eg FLUID or perhaps a new mail-generating and
mail-sending system etc.

> I know that they want to provide a great framework, great ideas, new
> paradigms and the rest but during the elapsed time, people want to use
> these stuff and although all those great stuff could be used "outside"
> for "other projects", their main use, their target is and should remain v5.

My stance is that a fully-fledged CMS is much too large as a target to
be a testbed for a new framework. Better start with smaller projects:

* a standalone forum (like BB forum)
* a blog (not only a sample package)
* wiki (a slightly bigger target)
* a small-scale bug/issue tracker

If you add features like SVN-viewing and projects to the above features
you'll get trac/redmine :)

Or add some plugin mechanism together with a mini-CMS and you'll get a
classic portal system.

Masi