[TYPO3-dev] [Fwd: Re: text/img and img elements with css-class?]

Ralf Hettinger ng at ralfhettinger.de
Thu Dec 11 11:26:16 CET 2008


Hi,

@Stephan:
thanks for these links to read on - will do so once I got some spare
minutes.


I would think as well that having a more flexible image handling would
benefit TYPO3. And imo wether that means em, % or more complex mixtures
- might depend on the context quite a bit.

So I won't be judging one concept vs the other but rather say (but
that's probably over-simplified): the more choices, the better...

Ralf


Am 11.12.2008 09:23 schrieb grac:
> hi franz
> 
>>> it's quite easy to keep the proportions with CSS:
>>> "width.100%; height:auto;"
>>> of course IE6 want's a hack:
>>> "height: 1%;" instead of "height:auto;"
>>>     
>>
>> good to know - thanks.
>>
>>   
> you are welcome - of course IE6 needs a lot of other bug fixes and
> hacks. but who doesn't know that?!
> 
> 
>>>> Besides of that - scaled images just look ugly in the browser -
>>>> that's also why it might not be that popular.        
>>> this depends of course on the quality of your original pic.
>>>     
>>
>> nope - that depends primarly on the scaling capabilities of the
>> browser. Most browsers just use "resample" which means to drop some
>> pixels - but those images don't get antialiased. FF3 is antialiasing
>> now, but I'm not sure about other browsers.
>>
>>   
> ... and here comes another question/problem: why not take the message of
> Web2.0 (browsers without up-to-date techniques are excluded from the
> claim that a website has to look identical on all browsers) serious?
> 
> and on the other hand focus the attention on the different width of
> viewports? 800x600 viewports become very unpopular, 1200x1000 seem to be
> a norm, and not very seldom you see nowadays screens with 2000. it's a
> similar process to tv screens: everybody wants to have wide screens.
> so it's only natural to adapt to these changed demands and construct
> elastic websites (including the images; all my original images have a
> width of 1200px or 1600px, depending on the place where they have to be
> in the layout).
> 
> 
>>> but just today i reaad a new note in the bugtracker
>>> http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=8070 about someone being puzzled
>>> about the necessity of having scaling images.
>>> this statement shows me that the understanding of the typo3 community
>>> is far from comprehending the usability of elastic layouts.
>>>     
>> that was me ;) I'm still not 100% sure if I think this concept is
>> useful or not. That's why I asked for some literature or something
>> similar.
>>
>>   
> oops, sorry, didn't realise that :-)
>>> see also the YAML blog:
>>> Flexible Layouts vs. Fixe Layouts -- 5:0 - High Resolution Weblog
>>>   
>>> http://www.highresolution.info/weblog/entry/flexible_layouts_vs_fixe_layouts_50/
>>>     
> what do you think about this article?
> 
> and how about the following, famous article?
> 
> CSS Layouts: The Fixed. The Fluid. The Elastic. - Beast-Blog.com  
> http://green-beast.com/blog/?p=199
> 
> 
> 
> stephan




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