[TYPO3-dev] Best practice for ajax use in BE?

[ries van Twisk]

For the BE,

prototype is quite ok, and possible there is room
for an other, or multiple.

The whole javascript frameworks discussion goes into
the discussion of 'windows vs mac vs linux'.
I don't think that any framework is particular better then a other  
framework.

I don't like mootools and jquery for my reasons, I use DOJO a lot which
is speed of developments, exactly the same reason why other people  
use mootools
and jquery I think :)

You are more then free to load any framework in the BE as you wish.

End of discussion of what framework is better???


Ries





On Jul 12, 2007, at 2:00 AM, Steffen Kamper wrote:

>
> "Jens Hoffmann" <jens.hoffmann at dkd.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:mailman.1.1184219105.21283.typo3-dev at lists.netfielders.de...
>> Instead of JQuery I would use MooTools.net becouse it is one step  
>> further
>> than JQ.
>> ... Faster, Better Cross-Browser compatibilty and more Functions +  
>> Nicer
>> Code!
>>
>>>> http://demos.mootools.net/
>>
>> Anyway Prototype is defently the badest Framework of all of them  
>> becouse
>> it
>> changes JS functions and this makes the whole system incompatible  
>> with
>> other
>> JS Frameworks. And the Code is quite unsexy.
>>
>> Greez Jens
>>
>
> Hi Jens,
>
> what do you mean exactly ?
> Prototype is part of most of the other frameworks, so it can't be
> incompatible.
> Also BE still uses protoype for Pagetree etc.
>
> I don't see a problem there.
>
> vg  Steffen
>
>> Fabien Udriot wrote:
>>> Believe me, with JQuery it is really fun to write Javascript. I  
>>> use this
>>> library almost every day and I found it very consistent.
>>>
>>> I looked at the documentation of prototype and I still would advice
>>> JQuery. It is less code to write ! If you google the web, you can  
>>> find
>>> links like this :
>>>
>>> http://michael.futreal.com/blog/0000052
>>> http://jquery.com/blog/2006/08/20/why-jquerys-philosophy-is-better/
>>>
>>>>> look at the speedtest: http://extjs.com/playpen/slickspeed
>>> JQuery is fast enought. It seems there are some myths about the  
>>> topic :
>>> http://ajaxian.com/archives/css-selectors-speed-myths
>>>
>>> Ajax library is often a matter of taste and habit and it really  
>>> depends
>>> on your needs. If your needs are DOM manipulation, than JQuery is  
>>> perfect
>>> choice.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Fabien
>>> ries van Twisk a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 11, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Steffen Kamper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> look at the speedtest: http://extjs.com/playpen/slickspeed
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure what that test really says about each framework.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For BE i would prefer prototype because it's already in the  
>>>>> package.
>>>>
>>>> I agree...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> vg  Steffen
>>>>>
>>>>> "Fabien Udriot" <fudriot at omic.ch> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>>>> news:mailman.1.1184155245.6498.typo3-dev at lists.netfielders.de...
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am coming a bit late on the topic but, anyway, I would like  
>>>>>> to share
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> experience about javascript libraries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personnally, I always have good experiences with JQuery
>>>>>> http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/jquery/1.1.3/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my opinion, it is a good candidate for the following reasons :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - the library has a light "footprint" (20kb)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - the documentation is well done and accessible :
>>>>>>   http://www.visualjquery.com/1.1.2.html
>>>>>>   more documentations and tutorials on http://jquery.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - It can be encapsulated to avoid conflicts with other libraries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - It has been build with modularity in mind. So, it is  
>>>>>> possible to
>>>>>> extend
>>>>>> JQuery with hundred of plugins. JQuery is very good at DOM
>>>>>> manipulation.
>>>>>> By default, it has "limited" visual effects. However this can be
>>>>>> changed
>>>>>> here : http://jquery.com/plugins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - The community is very active and its creator, John Resig, is  
>>>>>> almost
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> genius of Javascript. (he works at Mozilla now.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could add more points... I discover new things every day,  
>>>>>> but here
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> the most important points for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fabien
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Francois Suter a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm currently developing a BE module and am thinking of using  
>>>>>>> AJAX
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> better user-experience. I know that the Prototype and  
>>>>>>> Scriptaculous
>>>>>>> libraries can be found in the "contrib" folder. There's also the
>>>>>>> Xajax
>>>>>>> extension. And personally I'm rather fond of the moo.fx library.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there any recommended way of going about this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second questions: is there something similar to the eID  
>>>>>>> mechanism in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> BE (so as to maybe load only a limited part of the BE)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any advice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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