[TYPO3-dev] TER, typo3.org, everything went FUBAR!!! :))

[Dimitri Tarassenko]

Ben,

On 3/2/06, ben van 't ende [netcreators] <ben at netcreators.nl> wrote:

> Please bear in mind that some people have been very busy with this.

I never doubted that. If they weren't maybe the things would be still
working now? :)) Not a very nice thing to say, I know.

> Maybe there is a way where you can provide some assistance in solving
> the problems you (and i) mention. That would seem fair.

Actually I did. I filed the full error output to the bug tracker for
the TER upload. That's as far as I can help right now. Obviously, the
problem is at the TER side of the things and in the scripts that are
used to process the extension docs. To the best of my knowledge, none
of that is in publicly accessible CVS.

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/typo3xdev/tx_extrep/ is 4 month old,

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/typo3xdev/tx_ter/tx_ter_wsdl.php?rev=1.1&view=auto
is month and a half.

If there is some very busy work going on on these parts, it is not
being committed to CVS. I was looking for the scripts that convert SXW
ext manual to web pages and PDF but those are either nowhere to be
found in the CVS.

Either that or I am too old and missing something or looking in the
wrong places.

Here is a big picture problem that I see - TYPO3 as a CMS is not
powerful and versatile enough to serve as a platform for TYPO3
community portal. This is a fact that is very hard and painful to
admit. So, once the maillist archive becomes too heavy we just drop it
altogether (all these forum-like thingies are for sissies anyway, real
men use news reader!), and point people to netfielders where they are
unsearcheable. I really wonder who had made a good and smart choice to
actually use MediaWiki for wiki - either this was a very bold move or
TIMTAW is so bad it wasn't even an option.

I somewhat like TER2 as an idea with decentralization and all but it
should have been built the other way around - as a virtualization over
the OLD TER1 first, not the other way around as per
http://typo3.org/typo3temp/tx_rlmpofficelib_641540efc6.png .

What happens now is you reward the gung-ho admins running sites on CVS
beta- versions at the expense of people who want to do something else
with their lives besides constantly upgrading TYPO3.

If Microsoft did something like this with MSDN or Windows Update linux
commies at Slashdot would be joyfully pissing in their pants. But an
open source project can't do nothing wrong, it's all for the sake of
the "future" and "progress".

Shame! Shame! Bad developers, no soup for you! ;))))

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Dimitri Tarassenko