[TYPO3-dev] RFC as tool to concept branch 5.x

[dan frost]

Elmar,

I don't agree with certain points but think that
this thread is getting off the point.

dan

Elmar Hinz wrote:
> Hi Dan,
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> dan frost wrote:
>> Elmar,
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>> My view is: The TER is for distributing TYPO3
>> extensions. RFCs are (i) not extensions to TYPO3
>> and (ii) will become very quickly obsolete, thus
>> filling up the TER with out of date junk!
> 
> 1.) Is it clever to call them junk in the same moment you propose them?
> RFC should be of respectable quality, else we shouldn't start it at all.
> 
> 2.) Some RFC stay experimental or become obsolete. Others reach the states
> "official standard" or "best practice" and become lasting documentation. In
> example RFC of IPs dates to September 1981.
> (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc791.txt)
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> Typical states in official RFC are:
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> * Informational
> * Experimental
> * Proposed standard
> * Draft standard
> * Best practice
> * Standard
> * Historic
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>> Here's what we need:
>> 1. Wiki - for outlining what's going on, the
>> process of submitting RFCs etc. It would be the
>> "brain storming" notice board.
> 
> Yes, brainstorming should stand at the beginng.
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>> 2. Mailing list - because we need to discuss ideas
>> like we are doing here
> 
> I also propose so. But "Use a news reader!"
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>> 3. RFCs - these would probably be PDFs (everyone
>> can read them) or ZIPs (if lots of source code is
>> included)
> 
> * TER automatically produces PDFs, at least it did in the past.
> * An XML document should be the master document to generate other formats.
> * PDF is not a source format but an end product.
> * There would be no inbuild indexing and search for PDF in wiki.
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>> 4. Somewhere to post the RFCs - probably the wiki
> 
> TER is more systematical in maintanance than the wiki in this. But yes
> there should be a list of RFC in the wiki.
> 
> I miss in your concept:
> 
> * automaic versioning
> * automatic HTML display
> * automatic PDF generation
> * example code easy to run as extension
> * sql tables and data
> * posibility to ship attachments like UML bundled with the RFC
> * indexing and search
> 
> Regards
> 
> Elmar
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