[TYPO3-dev] Moving the topic of the discussion a little bit -- Based of thread "Change roadmap..."

[Dimitri Tarassenko]

Joey,

On 4/12/06, JoH <info at cybercraft.de> wrote:

> > So why not simply switch to API and forget all about this inflexible
> > marker stuff?
>
> Very easy: Because 10thousands of people in the world are doing it this way.

Gee. I wonder why the heck did we chose OpenOffice as a standard
documentation editor when millions are using Word?


> What really annoys me ist the way how some of the developers are going to
> replace things with so called "standards" instead of improving the existing
> things to become "standards" as well.
> "TypoScript sucks - it has to be replaced with XML"
> "Hooks are crap - we need a registry"
> "Marker based templating is uncool - we need smarty"
> "Look, Mom, Puma shoes are ugly - all the other kids have got Nikes"

TypoScript sucks so badly, it will NEVER become a standard of ANYTHING
outside TYPO3.

Hooks are crap, because they are in reality a "workaround" of XCLASS
limitations and a very good sign of bad object design.

Smarty is _clearly_ superior to TYPO3 marker-based templating as it
provides better separation of business logics and presentation. Martin
gave you one very good example with looping but it doesn't end there.

> A wide spread standard that is available for a big percentage of the www is
> Flash.
> Should we write our backend in Action Script now?

No. And as someone who actually had written a couple of applications
in ActionScript I'll tell you that I'd rather be templating with
TypoScript than go through that again ;))

> After all there is no real "standard" and you should always stick to the
> solution that serves your needs best.

That's exactly what we are rooting for. Smarty suites my needs a lot
better than TypoScript, and not because it's "standard", but because
it's better. ADOdb is better than t3div_db and DBAL. Et cetera.

> One of these needs is: My sites should be working properly after an update
> without too many hassles.

I'm with you on that. That's why we are discussing where 5.0 needs to
be, not 4.5.

--
Dimitri Tarassenko


P.S. And oh, yes, I forgot: both Puma and Nike are for losers. Real
men wear Reebok. ;))))