[Typo3-dev] new standard templates

[Matt McNeill]

Stephane,

I think this would be a fantastic idea! Having just recently come to Typo3 as a newbie I was very impressed by it's functionality but felt all the standard examples were very out of date. In the end I used MTB as my model, but have since had loads of problems getting extensions to work. e.g. the guestbook etc. 

This leads on to my thoughts regarding the tutorials in particular:-

1) They have gaps - you get through the MTB p1 and then hit MTB p2 and are expected to design an extension! I personally just wanted to get my website working with basic functionality and with basic extensions (e.g. news, guestbook, links list etc. etc.) In the end I found the templ_select extension ready buit and hacked about to get it to work.

2) It would be best if the tutorials were orientated in building the sample sites!

3) The samples / tutorials should use the latest methodologies as you suggest. This will encourage people to use Typo3 and also perhaps encourage those people who are developing the temp-voila and css_styles etc to continue their good work and stablise these essential tools.

So, if you do go ahead to build the sample sites, perhaps you could make some notes as to how/what you did with a view to them becoming a comprehensive tutorial taking someone from newbie to competent? 

Typo3 is fantastic, but painful to learn, more painful than it needs to be or should be.

Now, putting money where my mouth is: I would be more than happy to test your tutorials and samples as a newbie user! :-)

Best Regards,

Matt

  "Stephane Schitter" <stephane.schitter at free.fr> wrote in message news:mailman.500.1085002222.242.typo3-dev at lists.netfielders.de...
  Hello,

  After the talks about rebuilding a new Extension Manager, an idea came to my
  mind - shouldn't we also redesign a few standard templates that will be shipped
  by default with Typo3, something that looks a bit more current, or uses for
  example CSS or other nice features introduced since the original templates were
  built ?

  The two things I remember from when I first discover Typo3 are:
  "wow that backend interface looks great!"
  "hmmm... How could anyone want to use these templates for their website"

  and I guess some (non professionnal) people may just want to use Typo3 to build
  some kind of generic website, with some kind of standard but still classy look,
  and a review / rebuild of standard templates would help get them onboard. Even
  if it was just for them to test how Typo3 works before embarking on a
  TemplaVoila expedition or the like.

  Comments welcome.

  Cheers,
  Stephane

  P.S. Yes I'd volunteer to work on that if the need is there. However be warned
  that I am nowhere near a good designer, but I want to help, I like Typo3 a lot
  !

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